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Your puzzle this year is a pair of LNER "Official" pictures, 12"x10", on the back of which is written "Flying Scotsman" and the cost of construction of the loco. The basic questions are:

1 - Which class of loco is actually taking shape?

2 - At which works?

3 - The approximate date?

Answers on New Year's Eve, 31st December, with commendations as appropriate. Good luck! If you'd like to submit your thoughts please use Contact/feedback via either of the menus or Contact/feedback.

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The answers

The answers came in quickly, led by Rob Dickson (well done!) and summarise thus:

1 - Gresley 3-cylinder 4-6-0 Class B17

2 - Darlington Works

3 - 1930-36

I think the general design history of this lightweight 4-6-0 is fairly well known, intended for the GE Section to supplement the Holden B12s, which the North British Locomotive Company was asked to design and build a batch of 10, under guidance by the LNER. Gresley had struggled with first designs attempted at King's Cross and Doncaster before handing over to NBL - which had already built several classes of LNER loco. There's a well-detailed account in RCTS 2B.

Further batches, were constructed at Darlington (52 between 1930-36) and a final batch of 11 (1937) at Robert Stephenson & Co. at Darlington. The total came to 73.

Identifying the works in the photograph was the trickiest part as there were three possibilities. Among the misleading stuff on the rear of the photographs, the location was cited as "Darlington" and the picture below shows the same works with the salient features confirming it:

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A view inside Darlington Works about 1923-24. Source: LNER 150, Patrick Whitehouse and David St.John Thomas, D&C, 1989, p.140.

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Examples in service

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The first batch built at Darlington comprised numbers 2810-2821 and No 2818 Wynyard Park, allocated to Cambridge, is seen leaving the city in the 1930s with an express for Liverpool St. The train is dominated by pre-Grouping carriages, mostly ex-GER with an ex-NER one leading. Photo: AWV Mace collection.

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Another example from the first batch and also allocated to Cambridge, No 2819 Welbeck Abbey is seen passing Littlebury on 4th August 1934 with an Up express to Liverpool St. Photo: ER Wethersett.

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In 1931 the second batch built at Darlington comprised numbers 2822-36 and the first one of them, Alnwick Castle is portrayed on a sepia postcard at Ingrave Summit, Brentwood, with a "Seaside Exoress". Note how the catering carriages (ex-GER restaurant car and dining car) were placed at the head, behind the loco. Photo: F.J. Agar.

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Another one from the same batch was No 2834 Hinchingbrooke which was sent to Neasden on the GC Section and is seen on shed in 1933. Photo: Author's collection.

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Also from this batch was No 2835 Milton, captured in November 1933 at Woodford Halse. It was one of three B17s sent to Doncaster to work fish trains to Banbury but by December, it had been transferred to Parkeston. Photo R.S.Carpenter.

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A B17 from the fifth and final batch built at Darlington in 1936, No 2850 Grimsby Town, now being built with a larger LNER Group Standard tender and named after football clubs on the LNER. It was one of three allocated to Woodford for working the cross-country expresses and is seen on shed on 14th August 1938. Photo R.S.Carpenter.

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The penultimate B17 built at Darlington in 1936 was No 2860 Hull City and is seen awaiting its next turn at Nottingham Victoria. Photo: TG Hepburn.

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